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Side Bar Stabilizer for Hunter Class
January 10, 2014
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Maxie Kizzire~~Life Member # 130
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Please tell me the rule for a side bar in Hunter Class. I know that the front bar is 12″ maximum. Thanks in advance. Maxie

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January 10, 2014
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No side bars or V bars in Hunter Class, Maxie. 12″ max on stabilizers.

January 10, 2014
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MAC, I don’t think that is correct.

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January 10, 2014
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Maxie,

Here is the wording for the rule. It does NOT address sidebars:

c. Stabilizers
i. Stabilizers may be used on all bows (except recurves and longbows).
ii. Bowhunter A, B, Senior Bowhunter, & Women’s Bowhunter A and B Divisions shall not be more than 12″ in length from its tip to the bow including extensions, weights and coupling devices.
iii. All other Adult, Junior, Youth, and Cub Divisions may shoot any type or length.

For the central zone, we did address it in our new Bowhunter Extreme class as follows:

Bowhunter Extreme – 40yrd Max – No Speed limit – Known Distance(rangefinder) – Alabama Legal Hunting Equipment – Allow the shooter to use adjustable sights. We will use the Stabilizer rule for this class as stated below:
Only one stabilizer having a single point of attachment may be used. The stabilizer can be any shape or configuration as long as it is contained within a theoretical sphere having a radius of 12 inches measured from the point of attachment.

The fact that it is not addressed in the current rules will lead to different interpretations by our chapters. Unless someone prove to me otherwise, the central zone will follow the 12″ radius rule from a single point of attachment.

January 10, 2014
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So……….If I read the rule correctly, It can be 12″ in front and/or 12″ back or side ways as long as it is attached in one location.. Correct?????

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January 10, 2014
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Maxie,

It is not 100% clear. It does not address sidebars either way. Nowhere does it say sidebars are illegal. Like I said, unless someone can convince me otherwise, the Central zone will use the 12″ radius rule. So, stay tuned in case that changes.

Yes, it does need to be attached at one point.

January 10, 2014
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ASA rules states that the front stabilizer can be up to 12″ and the side bar can be 6″ from the point of attachment(can be attached in a different location) or from the narrowest part of the grip backwards(towards the string). In other words, it could be longer than 6″ if it is pointed down. Just FYI.

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January 10, 2014
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i have never seen somebody hunting with side bars in alabama

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January 10, 2014
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Darryl Moore said

i have never seen somebody hunting with side bars in alabama

I have. I may even put a sidebar on my bow. I have an HHA sight that adds a good bit of weight and I I think I need to offset it. But, it really doesn’t matter what we’ve seen, it is how the rule is interpreted.

January 11, 2014
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Theoretically…I can have an 8 point antler on my bow as a stabilizer as long as it only attaches at one point with weights on each tine…as long as it does not exceed 12″ in circumference from the point of attachment????
Let’s see if we can get this REALLY complicated.
Bring it up at the next BHA meeting for clarification or adopt ASA rule…

January 11, 2014
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It’s been widely understood in BHA for over 25 years that stabilizers can only extend forward from the riser no more than 12 inches in any bowhunter class. After reading the initial post in this thread, I dusted off my microscope and looked at the rule, and I can see where the “pro side bar” folks might have an argument, even though I too have never seen a bowhunter with side bars! I think if we’re going to start micro-analyzing rules, and in taking the “monkey” off BHA’s back, why not just adopt ASA’s interpretation, and be done with it!

Kevin Ivey President Marshall County Bowhunters North Zone Director Life Member #133 www.marshallcountybowhunters.webs.com
January 11, 2014
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Kevin Ivey said

It’s been widely understood in BHA for over 25 years that stabilizers can only extend forward from the riser no more than 12 inches in any bowhunter class. After reading the initial post in this thread I dusted off my microscope and looked at the rule, and I can see where the “pro side bar” folks might have an argument, even though I too have never seen a bowhunter with side bars! I think if we’re going to start micro-analysing rules, and in taking the “monkey” off “BHA’s back, why not just adopt ASA’s interpretation, and be done with it!

Thanks Kevin. I agree 1000%!!!! Use ASA’s rule on this. By the way, I have seen hunters use the side bar and plan to use a short one on my hunting set up next year.

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January 11, 2014
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We are always trying to re-invent the wheel at BHA….
Just adopt ASA rules….and take away all the rules “problems”.
I think I’ll use a Salad Side Bar on my bow this year……………..Wink …may even try that rack stabilizer, too!Laugh

January 11, 2014
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Guys…Let’s not start this…it’s only 11 days into 2014 and its already started. I just signed two of my nasp kids up for bha and i dont want them to think this is how it is all the time.

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January 11, 2014
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The 12 inch sphere rule was instituted in IBO last year and is pretty simple. It is only legal for use in the bowhunter extreme class for local central and southern zone shoots. ALL trail and state shoots will be by the BHA trail shoot and 3D tournament rules. So, in the state shoots it is one stabilizer 12 inches or less measured from the point of attchment at the front of the riser to the tip of the stabilizer. In the local shoots for the central and southern zone shoots, the 12 inch sphere rule allows the use of side bars as long as they are attached at the same point as the front stabilizer. If you go to http://www.ibo.net and look under the rules for 2014 you will see a picture of the 12 inch radius rule for a better idea of what it looks like.

January 11, 2014
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Darryl, I promise that I was not trying to stir things up when I asked the question. I didn’t know that the answer is so complicated.

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January 12, 2014
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Ok, I have been trying to do some research on stabilizers and looking at the wording of our rule. I just don’t see how we ban sidebars or v-bars within a 12″ radius of the mounting point. You just can’t use the argument that it has been “understood” for all these years. Since when do we enforce “understood” rules vs. the actual rules? I agree that maybe years ago a stabilizer was just a rod of some sort sticking straight out front from the bow, that is all there was. But technology and equipment have changed. Think about it, the purpose of a stabilizer is to balance or “stabilize” the bow to make a better shot. So, why are we trying to limit this to a rod that sticks straight out front when the better option for some bows may be to have a sidebar to offset the sight and/or quiver. The rule itself does not even say that the stabilizer has to be facing forward. What if someone only used a sidebar. As long as it measures 12″ or less from the bow, how in the world would this be against the rule? And PLEASE do not say “I’ve never seen anyone hunt with just a sidebar”. That argument does not hold water. We are interpreting the rule not trying to prove what some people may or may not use for hunting.

Like I said,, At Central Zone local shoots we will be using the 12″ radius rule unless someone can convince me otherwise. I guess the decision on the trail shoot rules is above my pay grade.

Here is a prime example for a hunting bow: http://b-stinger.com/archery-s…..hp?mf=2500

January 12, 2014
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Thanks Kenny. That’s the only way to interpret the rule I think. Doinker also makes their version “Unity Hunter Package”.

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January 13, 2014
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GREAT. Good responses.
One contact point on the bow for all stabilizer (rods, etc.)…but cannot exceed a 12″ radius from the point of attachment to the bow.
Let’s have a GREAT 3-D season!

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