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9:14 am
This question has come up a couple of times recently and I need some clarification to avoid conflict at a trail or state shoot. Can a shooter shoot a single pin movable sight (HHA in this case) in a Bowhunter class if he does not move the pin once he starts his round?
3:06 pm
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January 25, 2013
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Yes, Honer system.
3:17 pm
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November 28, 2012
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I agree, legal equipment in Bowhunter class. CBE makes the Tek-Hybrid and Tek-Hunter and they both are movable. Most companies are making sights that do not require a tool to adjust. It’s obvious to the group if a Bowhunter is moving their pins. Moving the pins would have to be done after the shooter determines the yardage.
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October 24, 2012
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Yep! I’m victim of winding up with “egg on my face” over this issue when I dissallowed a young man from shooting in Bowhunter B, who had a movable sight; only to find out later that, although it is written no where in the rules, somewhere, sometime or other an “agreement” was made that we would allow the shooter to compete in a Bowhunter class so long as the individual did not move his/her sight during competion. It’s definitely an issue that should be clarified in the published rules.
Kevin Ivey
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7:23 pm
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November 28, 2012
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I agree, needs to be clarified.
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I shot a 2-pin movable sight a few years ago in the SR/BH class with no problems. I taped the knobs so that you couldn’t move the sight without taking the tape off. This seemed to be alright with the other shooters.
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Apologize for the late input. I think this does need to be CLARIFIED. An immobilized adjustable sight would be okay, I think. Rather than a rule change a clarification by the board would be in order.
Mark Proctor
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With the extreme popularity of single pin moveable sights, such as the HHA, for hunting purposes, in my opinion, we should allow them in the Hunter Class and it should be OK to move them. Just another place we are not allowing the average bowhunter to fit in. With all the talk about speed, I think this is just as big an issue. For instance. If I just want to shoot a 3d tournament one weekend, a speed limit increase (or no speed limit whatsoever) might allow me to shoot in a certain class. However, with my HHA, I would still be stuck with the big boys who are probably shooting target bows and moveable sights WITH MAGNIFICATION. What I would really like to see is a moveable sight being allowed in the Bowhunter Class as long as it does not have magnification. I mean, really, what the heck is the difference without magnification. You have to judge the yardage and still make the shot whether its one pin or ten. Also, moveable sights WITHOUT magnification are legal to hunt with in the state of Alabama. And they are growing exponentially with hunters. This is my opinion. Times change. People and groups change or they go extinct! I just want to see more people out shooting and I can’t stand the fact that some of our rules keep people from fitting into a certain class. We are suppose to be bowhunters, not tournament shooters.
7:44 pm
Amen Ben! 
I am one of those guys who hunts with an HHA with no lens and I get stuck shooting against scope shooters. I am the poster child for your argument. 
Maybe someone will show me/us some love and change the bowhunter class to allow movable sight. Leave magnification for the open class.
7:13 am
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October 24, 2012
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I agree . The best sight I have I cannot use in hunter class.
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February 21, 2013
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I also agree, We have to change and avoid restricting bowhunters from attending tournament due to the rules that will not allow them to shoot what they hunt with. This will also keep them from joining the BHA and local chapters.
Mathews Chill, Gold Tip - Pro Hunter - XXX, QAD, True Fire, Bohning, B Stinger......
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we seem to be trying to change rules for people who arent showing up to shoot anyway. no matter what you think this is a competition. as it is they can shoot for fun. if they want to compete for a hatpin then play by the rules we have just like you have to do in other organizations. yall keep talking about bowhunter class but youre really talking about the 30 yd stake. open b and bowhunter a shoot from the same stake. whats the problem. in bowhunter b you only need one pin(25 yds) anyway. after all you are shooting from the kids stake.
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October 24, 2012
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So that’s what’s wrong. I have been competing with the Kids. No wonder I can’t win.
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October 24, 2012
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Scott Fletcher said
we seem to be trying to change rules for people who arent showing up to shoot anyway. no matter what you think this is a competition. as it is they can shoot for fun. if they want to compete for a hatpin then play by the rules we have just like you have to do in other organizations. yall keep talking about bowhunter class but youre really talking about the 30 yd stake. open b and bowhunter a shoot from the same stake. whats the problem. in bowhunter b you only need one pin(25 yds) anyway. after all you are shooting from the kids stake.
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I would not mind shooting against some one using a moveable sight in bow hunter class they should even be able to move it as long as no lense is involved .Its a perfectly legal piece of bow hunting equiment in our state.And for the people shooting from the kids stake great job your the ones keeping the BHA shoots afloat .This is the biggest class BHA has a lot of people shoot it because they intend to keep there hunting shots under 30 yards .No matter what stake a person should choose to shoot as long as they are having fun and enjoying themselves THAT is what should be important!
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October 24, 2012
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I agree with you Jeremy what has happened to the fun in it . Everyone should be having fun instead of conflict all the time. Shouldn’t we be thinking of how to make it better for the future shooters (our children coming up)?
9:19 pm
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October 24, 2012
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While we are discussing rules…let’s get back to enforcing rules of competition…………..
A couple of infractions during a Trail Shoot or State Championship can really screw up the ol’ “Honor System”.
Just like our U.S. Senate and Congress, we (BHA) can make or pass any rules we want, but if we DO NOT ENFORCE those rules it is a waste of time.
Here are several of the rule breaking habits that need to change and rules that NEED to be enforced:
TIME LIMITS to shoot… 2 minutes for the first shooter, 1 minute for the other shooters in the group. ( A ZERO for the target if the time limit is violated!)
A PART of your body MUST TOUCH the SHOOTING STAKE…. that’s TOUCH, not several inches to several feet FROM the stake.
SCOREKEEPERS must score arrows BEFORE they are PULLED. The Scorekeeper MUST OBSERVE the arrow BEFORE it is pulled.
There is NO “pulling of a line”….it either TOUCHES or it does not. If there is a question, the shooters make a decision. If they cannot, the RANGE CAPTAIN is called to judge.
A shooter in COMPETITION MUST SHOOT in a GROUP for scores to count.
A PULLED arrow before it is SCORED by the scorekeeper gets a ZERO for the target.
ENFORCE the rules we have or throw all of them out ENTIRELY. If you or another shooter have broken the rules listed above, or any of the other writen BHA rules….you have CHEATED!!
This is NOT what BHA stands for or should tolerate. This is NOT what we want young shooters to learn from the “grown-ups” that they are watching and emulating!
Honest shooters NEED to report any rule-breaking. Shooters deliberately breaking the rules of competition are no better than POACHERS…TURN THEM IN!!!
If I sound serious about this…………I AM!
ENFORCE THE RULES.
2:59 pm
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I seem to have thrown ice water on this thread by emphasizing rules………….
Here’s a good change. Tuscaloosa will be hosting a “Get Ready for Bow Season” shoot the second week of September.
Whatever Alabama legal bowhunting setup you have will be LEGAL equipment for this shoot! AND you may use your rangefinders!
Stay tuned….we are working on the details for the shoot……AND there will be door prizes!
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