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3:09 pm
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November 28, 2012
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I would like to encourage my fellow BHA members to vote “Yes” for the Tournament Rules Committee. Then I would like to encourage this committee to adopt ASA Tournament Rules for 2014. BHA could turn the Trail series into ASA qualifiers and the ASA/BHA State could be held at the State banquet. What a great opportunity for BHA to partner with ASA in the State of Alabama. Great way to boost BHA membership and allow BHA to focus on bowhunting.
What ASA does works! Let’s jump on the bandwagon.
2012 Season = Total 8781 avg per shoot 1254
2013 Season = Total 9372 avg per shoot 1339
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Jason Knight
4:49 pm
I think we need to put some serious thought to this. Adopting ASA rules may be a wise thing for us to do.
6:58 pm
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September 23, 2012
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I think your attendance numbers are misleading. Pro Ams are a National event pulling shooters from many states. I don’t think that just by adppting ASA rules the shooters will come in droves from everywhere outside the state. The ASA State had a great attendance but still did not beat our Bow Up Against Breast Cancer shoot, the largest shoot of the year, so far. But, adopting ASA rules is something to consider I just don’t think attendance is automatically going to jump sky high because of it.
Mark Proctor
Past BHA President 2011-2015
Lifemember #63
8:39 am
I agree Mark, we won’t pull ASA numbers but my feeling is that it would help and we(BHA) would not be maintaining the rules. I am not 100% sold on the idea but I would like to hear some discussion of pros and cons.
8:47 am
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msproctor said
I think your attendance numbers are misleading. Pro Ams are a National event pulling shooters from many states. I don’t think that just by adppting ASA rules the shooters will come in droves from everywhere outside the state. The ASA State had a great attendance but still did not beat our Bow Up Against Breast Cancer shoot, the largest shoot of the year, so far. But, adopting ASA rules is something to consider I just don’t think attendance is automatically going to jump sky high because of it.
I some what agree with you Mark. I don’t think ASA rules are the saving grace of 3D in Alabama or for BHA. The numbers listed are to show ASA is increasing their participation not to imply BHA can duplicate these numbers. Also, I have shot one ASA event in my life and did not shoot any this year. So I am not really an ASA fan boy. However, when any other competition is having success, you need to look at what they are doing. ASA added a Senior Hunter class for 2014. This class was added to the Texas ASA Federation and did so well ASA is adding this class for the 2014 season. BHA does not have to be 100% hard-core ASA rules, Texas saw a need for their membership and adjusted.
Let’s focus on the CAB, bowhunting rights, Bowhunter Education, Urban Deer Control, IBEP, Car Tags, etc.
8:53 pm
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September 23, 2012
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Jason you forgot Explore Bowhuntig program, (sure that was part of the etc., ha ha)
Mark Proctor
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9:19 pm
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October 24, 2012
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ASA rules are exact and detailed. Ours are not. Why do we have to re-invent the wheel?
Let’s adopt ASA rules for our competition.
At our last shoot in Tuscaloosa every member was asked about rule changes, the vote at this next board meeting and the discusion ended with a unanimous vote to adopt those ASA rules.
We get so bogged down each year with this problem. The problem can go away with one solution.
By adding a bowhunter class that has no restrictions except the rules and regs. that the Alabama DCNR has for bowhunters (less the broadheads), we can meet some of the needs that keep the majority of Alabama bowhunters from attending our 3-D shoots. This, along with an advertising and marketing strategy can increase our attendance and membership.
9:31 pm
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October 24, 2012
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Well, I don’t know if everyone is hinting around this point, in fear of “just saying it”, but, if we’d adopt ASA rules, that, in and of itself, would remove the possibility of problems with “those” who might think that “well, someone, or a group of individuals, pushed this rule or that rule through, just to suit their fancy…..”. Personally, I think it is the ONLY way we can go to be as fair as we possibly can to every class & every age bracket! Whatever we as a group decide on, those rules should be enforced! I will say, in an ASA shoot, rules are followed! And, I’ve witnessed those rules being enforced, usually without incident, or anyone getting PO’d about it. It’s just the right, and the simplest solution.
Kevin Ivey
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8:49 am
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October 30, 2012
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I think adopting ASA rules is the smart thing to do. But, there is no way we can support the 30+ classes ASA fields. BHA would have to decide which classes to support and adopt the rules accordingly.
9:22 am
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November 6, 2012
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I agree with Elk Hunter. Adopt the rules but not all the Classes. if we had 30+ classes it would cost close to $1000 just for the awards.
9:39 am
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November 5, 2012
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Does that mean i get to use a rangefinder in bow novice?
7:22 pm
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October 24, 2012
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I would vote for ASA rules except tweek the classes a little. We don’t have enough shooters to fill all of the different classes that they have.
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7:27 pm
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aeroforce100 said
Does that mean i get to use a rangefinder in bow novice?
In the hunter class(40yds), the first day is known yardage and the second day is judging your yardage. In the “State ASA”, it was unknown yardage the first half of the targets and known the second half.
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10:06 am
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October 24, 2012
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Of course we do not need all the classes that ASA has, but, the rest of the rules and selected classes would benefit BHA greatly.
1:13 pm
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October 24, 2012
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I agree and I think all the Open A shooters and senior open class would agree. We have been the ones that the old BHA rules impacted.We can not go to BHA shoots without jacking our bows down and shooting farther than we do in ASA. BHA classes for seniors is shorter but open A is longer. We need a class for the guys that want to shoot known yardage. I do not like the known but we have a big group of people that will shoot if it is implemented. Give the shooters what they want and set the stage for fair competion for all. First order of business is to repeal the lock and then my vote is for us to adopt ASA rules with a tournament committee to oversee and tweak them to fit BHA’s needs.
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November 21, 2012
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Well said Leldon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2:09 pm
FYI – There will be strong opposition to the Rules Committee motion in the board meeting. Most likely it will happen this way – We will repeal the 3 year lock, Vote down the Rules Committee, Vote in some or all of the rules that I proposed. Then next year there will be a motion to adopt ASA rules. I think we are a year away from adopting ASA rules if we do.
4:42 pm
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October 24, 2012
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Well I don’t agree that it should take another year. I f it takes another year it will be the death of all the upper classes. Unlimited, Senior open and OPen A need fixing this year. WE have lost over 75% of the people already.Do I need to start naming names? Why would anybody in their right mind not want a rules committee that would be fair and have the authority to make decisions that would keep us from getting into the situation we are in now . We should of had this put into place way before now. Their will always be a need for a rules committee.
9:06 pm
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October 24, 2012
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Sorry.but I for one cannot vote for the the Tournament Committee.They would be more buddy deals in it .Than at our State Cab Meetings.The T.D. ,3 zone Directors and three people from each zone that they all approve.Sorry I choose to keep my voting rights and not give them away.
9:21 pm
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October 24, 2012
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This is why I have been pushing for a set of rules to be posted at each shoot.
Example: tme to shoot, speed of bow, example of how to score a shot (touching, pulling, pass through), don’t walk past the stake before you shoot, foot on the stake, when to count a center 12 or a lower or upper 12, and what happens if the rules are broken or occur on the range. This is just an example of some things that I see happen on the range on purpose and by mistake.
Not to be over picky but Just so everyone is reminded if they have shot before, and explained if they are new. This will assure that everyone is on an even playing field. The shooter should be told the rules and not have to go and ask what the rules are.
Just my 2 cents.
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